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	<title>Comments on: Optimism, we hardly knew ye</title>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 02:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uhh, what bluemeanies said.

Chicago management has taken the position that they&#039;re not willing to trade Conde, despite his wishes to the contrary. I&#039;m not sure how a NYRB fan could consider this foul play, since the tort in this case seems to be the tampering of Osorio with players under contract to the Fire.

I&#039;m sick of talking about Conde, frankly. My guess is that, given assurances they&#039;ll accept reasonable offers in the August transfer window, Conde will play his butt off with quiet fury and leave before the stretch drive. Given my lifelong tendency to be mind-blowingly wrong about virtually everything, though, anything&#039;s possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uhh, what bluemeanies said.</p>
<p>Chicago management has taken the position that they&#8217;re not willing to trade Conde, despite his wishes to the contrary. I&#8217;m not sure how a NYRB fan could consider this foul play, since the tort in this case seems to be the tampering of Osorio with players under contract to the Fire.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sick of talking about Conde, frankly. My guess is that, given assurances they&#8217;ll accept reasonable offers in the August transfer window, Conde will play his butt off with quiet fury and leave before the stretch drive. Given my lifelong tendency to be mind-blowingly wrong about virtually everything, though, anything&#8217;s possible.</p>
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		<title>By: bluemeanies</title>
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		<dc:creator>bluemeanies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 21:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Camjam- the only person who&#039;s said that is Ives.  And we don&#039;t know the team or the striker that was turned down.  And Ives is well known to be partial to RBNY in his reporting, so using the &#039;they didn&#039;t agree to the trade because they were scared that he&#039;d go to RBNY&#039; I wouldn&#039;t believe til it was confirmed by a non-Ives reliable source.

And really- who is going to trade a proven forward at this point?  Seally from KC- but KC could use Conde more than anyone that RBNY offers, and Seally isn&#039;t really trade bait.  Chivas got rid of Cunliffe (a not proven forward) for a defender/midfielder, so maybe the player in question was Eskandarian?  Razov?  Or maybe Mina, coming off injury, hasn&#039;t settled his problems with Dallas yet.  That might be stretching &#039;proven&#039;, but who else is available?  There are reasons to reject Mina other than a possible secondary trade.   

The point I&#039;m making is that this rumor came from a source who has demonstrated NY bias in that past and hasn&#039;t named the other party or player in the deal.  Attributions of motives and how good the deal actually was can&#039;t be determined unless we know more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Camjam- the only person who&#8217;s said that is Ives.  And we don&#8217;t know the team or the striker that was turned down.  And Ives is well known to be partial to RBNY in his reporting, so using the &#8216;they didn&#8217;t agree to the trade because they were scared that he&#8217;d go to RBNY&#8217; I wouldn&#8217;t believe til it was confirmed by a non-Ives reliable source.</p>
<p>And really- who is going to trade a proven forward at this point?  Seally from KC- but KC could use Conde more than anyone that RBNY offers, and Seally isn&#8217;t really trade bait.  Chivas got rid of Cunliffe (a not proven forward) for a defender/midfielder, so maybe the player in question was Eskandarian?  Razov?  Or maybe Mina, coming off injury, hasn&#8217;t settled his problems with Dallas yet.  That might be stretching &#8216;proven&#8217;, but who else is available?  There are reasons to reject Mina other than a possible secondary trade.   </p>
<p>The point I&#8217;m making is that this rumor came from a source who has demonstrated NY bias in that past and hasn&#8217;t named the other party or player in the deal.  Attributions of motives and how good the deal actually was can&#8217;t be determined unless we know more.</p>
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		<title>By: Camjam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Camjam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 20:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can&#039;t mention Conde&#039;s behavior without mentioning how childish the management themselves are acting. Refusing to trade him to another team who offered a solid striker(which they did) because that team *may* then trade Conde to RBNY? talk about some sour grapes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#8217;t mention Conde&#8217;s behavior without mentioning how childish the management themselves are acting. Refusing to trade him to another team who offered a solid striker(which they did) because that team *may* then trade Conde to RBNY? talk about some sour grapes.</p>
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		<title>By: sal</title>
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		<dc:creator>sal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You totally jinxed us with the optimism article!

That said all this bad will is going to be completely erased come Saturday night after a 3-0 drubbing of RSL.  No really, it will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You totally jinxed us with the optimism article!</p>
<p>That said all this bad will is going to be completely erased come Saturday night after a 3-0 drubbing of RSL.  No really, it will.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Martinez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Martinez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Big Zach stopped one hell of a penalty shot . . . and we have 4 keepers in our stable, including a great prospect in Danny Cepero.

Maybe we can reach a deal my friend.  Ill have your people call my people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big Zach stopped one hell of a penalty shot . . . and we have 4 keepers in our stable, including a great prospect in Danny Cepero.</p>
<p>Maybe we can reach a deal my friend.  Ill have your people call my people.</p>
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